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            <title>[DOCS-13021] [OM] Memory requirements unclearly omit the backing mongods</title>
                <link>https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-13021</link>
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                    <description>&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;Description&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Description&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A customer cited the &lt;a href=&quot;https://docs.opsmanager.mongodb.com/current/core/requirements/#hardware-requirements&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;OM hardware requirements page&lt;/a&gt; which states 15 GB RAM for the OM application plus 15 GB for a co-hosted backup daemon, however the actual memory use for their OM application was ~40 GB plus ~13 GB for the backing &lt;tt&gt;mongod&lt;/tt&gt; servers, plus ~17 GB for the backup daemon &lt;tt&gt;mongod&lt;/tt&gt;: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Customer requests this documentation be updated to more accurately estimate Ops Manager application server memory use expectations.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;Scopeofchanges&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Scope of changes&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;ImpacttoOtherDocs&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Impact to Other Docs&lt;/h2&gt;

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&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;Resources%28ScopeorDesignDocs%2CInvision%2Cetc.%29&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Resources (Scope or Design Docs, Invision, etc.)&lt;/h2&gt;
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        <key id="918906">DOCS-13021</key>
            <summary>[OM] Memory requirements unclearly omit the backing mongods</summary>
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                                    <resolution id="13201">Fixed</resolution>
                                        <assignee username="tony.sansone@mongodb.com">Anthony Sansone</assignee>
                                    <reporter username="scott.kurowski@mongodb.com">Scott Kurowski</reporter>
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                <created>Fri, 6 Sep 2019 19:29:43 +0000</created>
                <updated>Sun, 29 Oct 2023 13:55:58 +0000</updated>
                            <resolved>Thu, 3 Oct 2019 20:43:42 +0000</resolved>
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                            <comment id="2464628" author="xgen-internal-githook" created="Thu, 3 Oct 2019 22:43:28 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Author:&lt;/p&gt;
{&apos;username&apos;: &apos;atsansone&apos;, &apos;email&apos;: &apos;tony.sansone@mongodb.com&apos;, &apos;name&apos;: &apos;Tony Sansone&apos;}
&lt;p&gt;Message: (DOCSP-13080): Backport &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-13021&quot; title=&quot;[OM] Memory requirements unclearly omit the backing mongods&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;DOCS-13021&quot;&gt;&lt;del&gt;DOCS-13021&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/a&gt; to v4.2&lt;br/&gt;
Branch: v4.2&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://github.com/10gen/mms-docs/commit/f220c504e7c77637aefd02a4d8ce818fa7036638&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://github.com/10gen/mms-docs/commit/f220c504e7c77637aefd02a4d8ce818fa7036638&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="2464610" author="xgen-internal-githook" created="Thu, 3 Oct 2019 22:26:09 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Author:&lt;/p&gt;
{&apos;username&apos;: &apos;atsansone&apos;, &apos;email&apos;: &apos;tony.sansone@mongodb.com&apos;, &apos;name&apos;: &apos;Tony Sansone&apos;}
&lt;p&gt;Message: (DOCSP-13081): Backport &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-13021&quot; title=&quot;[OM] Memory requirements unclearly omit the backing mongods&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;DOCS-13021&quot;&gt;&lt;del&gt;DOCS-13021&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/a&gt; to v4.0&lt;br/&gt;
Branch: v4.0&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://github.com/10gen/mms-docs/commit/b499062fcd4c482add7f230e01b715aa4bbbb174&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://github.com/10gen/mms-docs/commit/b499062fcd4c482add7f230e01b715aa4bbbb174&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="2464461" author="xgen-internal-githook" created="Thu, 3 Oct 2019 20:42:18 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Author:&lt;/p&gt;
{&apos;username&apos;: &apos;atsansone&apos;, &apos;email&apos;: &apos;tony.sansone@mongodb.com&apos;, &apos;name&apos;: &apos;Tony Sansone&apos;}
&lt;p&gt;Message: (&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-13021&quot; title=&quot;[OM] Memory requirements unclearly omit the backing mongods&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;DOCS-13021&quot;&gt;&lt;del&gt;DOCS-13021&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/a&gt;): Added note about memory to OM requirements.&lt;br/&gt;
Branch: master&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://github.com/10gen/mms-docs/commit/555249386d6ad55a027546eef7f7c86312cadf47&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://github.com/10gen/mms-docs/commit/555249386d6ad55a027546eef7f7c86312cadf47&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="2441370" author="scott.kurowski" created="Mon, 30 Sep 2019 21:52:17 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;I think prepending &quot;resident&quot; on OM memory use references would do more to make this issue go away for customers.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="2417428" author="tony.sansone" created="Thu, 12 Sep 2019 03:23:16 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=scott.kurowski&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;scott.kurowski&quot;&gt;scott.kurowski&lt;/a&gt;: The output of the &lt;tt&gt;top&lt;/tt&gt; command may have been misinterpreted. Reviewing this output:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p/&gt;
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&lt;p/&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We want to examine the &lt;tt&gt;RES&lt;/tt&gt; value: physical memory. (See the &lt;a href=&quot;http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/top.1.html&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;top man page&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Across all five processes, this adds up to 34.7 GB of physical memory, which is well within the &lt;a href=&quot;https://docs.opsmanager.mongodb.com/current/core/requirements/#backup-database-hardware-requirements&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;stated hardware requirements&lt;/a&gt; (assuming &amp;lt; 2,000 hosts and 2 TB of blockstore storage):&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul class=&quot;alternate&quot; type=&quot;square&quot;&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;15 GB for Ops Manager&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;15 GB for Backup Daemon&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;8 GB for application database&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;16 GB for backup database&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;62 GB in total&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;The &lt;tt&gt;top&lt;/tt&gt; command shows that these five processes are consuming a total of &lt;em&gt;13.9% of available physical memory&lt;/em&gt;. The host in question has more than 250 GB of physical memory available.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The other value, &lt;tt&gt;VIRT&lt;/tt&gt;, includes &quot;the total amount of virtual memory used by the task. It includes all code, data and shared libraries plus &lt;em&gt;pages that have been swapped out and pages that have been mapped but not used&lt;/em&gt;.&quot; (Emphasis mine.) This is the total amount of virtual memory that has been used recently and may be used in the near future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&apos;t believe the requirements need updating as these values appear within the recommended values.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Barring any further clarification, I will close this ticket at the end of business on Thursday.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope this helps!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=mihai.bojin&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;mihai.bojin&quot;&gt;mihai.bojin&lt;/a&gt;, please correct me if I have misunderstood this information or the requirements as documented need additional clarification.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
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