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            <title>[DOCS-14280] Documentation incorrectly states that configuration parameter net.maxIncomingConnections has a default value of 65536</title>
                <link>https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-14280</link>
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                    <description>&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;Description&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Description&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/reference/configuration-options/#net.maxIncomingConnections&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/reference/configuration-options/#net.maxIncomingConnections&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Default&lt;/em&gt;: 65536&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This parameter is shown to have a default value (of 65,536).  In fact, this value:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For WINDOWS: defaults to a higher value&lt;br/&gt;
For UNIX: is calculated as a percentage of the open files (nofile) limit&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;Scopeofchanges&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Scope of changes&lt;/h2&gt;

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        <key id="1645262">DOCS-14280</key>
            <summary>Documentation incorrectly states that configuration parameter net.maxIncomingConnections has a default value of 65536</summary>
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                                            <priority id="3" iconUrl="https://jira.mongodb.org/images/icons/priorities/major.svg">Major - P3</priority>
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                                    <resolution id="13201">Fixed</resolution>
                                        <assignee username="nick.villahermosa@mongodb.com">Nick Villahermosa</assignee>
                                    <reporter username="eric.sommer@mongodb.com">Eric Sommer</reporter>
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                            <label>release</label>
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                <created>Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:52:47 +0000</created>
                <updated>Mon, 30 Oct 2023 20:11:25 +0000</updated>
                            <resolved>Thu, 7 Sep 2023 14:21:14 +0000</resolved>
                                                    <fixVersion>Server_Docs_20231030</fixVersion>
                                    <component>manual</component>
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                        <due>Fri, 4 Feb 2022 00:00:00 +0000</due>
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                            <comment id="5686420" author="JIRAUSER1270643" created="Thu, 7 Sep 2023 14:21:14 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Backports: v6.0, v5.0, v4.4&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="5610889" author="jason.chan" created="Thu, 3 Aug 2023 16:46:14 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=ashley.brown%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;ashley.brown@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;ashley.brown@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt; , this &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-14280?focusedCommentId=5610307&amp;amp;page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-5610307&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comment&lt;/a&gt; captures the values to document. Specifically:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;For windows: we set a hard limit cap of 1,000,000&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;For Linux: We calculate the value as maxConns = 0.8 * RLIMIT_NOFILE&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Documentation on RLIMIT_NOFILE can be found &lt;a href=&quot;https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/getrlimit.2.html&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=shameek.ray%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;shameek.ray@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;shameek.ray@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt; , I don&apos;t believe this DOCs ticket is blocked on HELP-32687. I think the confusion is that currently, the server sets the default values as I stated above. However, we&#160;acknowledge that the calculation used to get the values for linux should be changed to better fit production environments. That is what HELP-32687 is expected to follow up on. I believe this DOCs ticket should continue and fix the documentation to match how the server currently behaves, and we can file another follow-up ticket to change it again for whatever release includes the new values we come up with from HELP-32687 in the future. &lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="5610687" author="shameek.ray" created="Thu, 3 Aug 2023 15:52:11 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=eric.sommer%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;eric.sommer@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;eric.sommer@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;, do we already know the correct values for the places where we are currently incorrect? Is this dependent on the HELP ticket assigned to me? The HELP ticket right now seems to strive for a different set of exploration / research.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="5610610" author="JIRAUSER1264464" created="Thu, 3 Aug 2023 15:32:49 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Hi &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=george.wangensteen%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=eric.sommer%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;eric.sommer@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;eric.sommer@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;! Thanks for your attention to this issue. We&apos;d love to have this documented, but as we mentioned above, we don&apos;t have enough information available to document.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You&apos;ve recommended that we document the following information:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;For WINDOWS: defaults to a higher value&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;em&gt;For UNIX: is calculated as a percentage of the open files (nofile) limit&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, &lt;em&gt;a higher value&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;a percentage of the open files limit&lt;/em&gt; are not specific enough values to put in the documentation. What higher value? What percentage? Eric and I met about these questions last year and determined together that a HELP ticket should be opened.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&apos;re requesting the specific values to document for each OS. The HELP ticket is currently assigned to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=shameek.ray%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;shameek.ray@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;shameek.ray@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Once that info is available, please let us know, and we&apos;ll be happy to add it to the docs!&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="5610341" author="eric.sommer" created="Thu, 3 Aug 2023 14:25:37 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;As &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=george.wangensteen%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt; wrote, what&apos;s currently in the DOCS:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Default: 65536&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;is simply wrong.  There is no such default.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As written in the description, this is the way the server (mongod) currently behaves:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For WINDOWS: max connections defaults to a higher value&lt;br/&gt;
For UNIX: max connections has no hard-coded value, but rather is calculated as a percentage of the open files (nofile) limit&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="5610321" author="george.wangensteen" created="Thu, 3 Aug 2023 14:20:43 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Hi, I&apos;m reopoening this due to the continuing confusion around this issue; the above slack thread is a good example. While I agree we should do the linked HELP ticket to improve our recommendations + defaults around connections, I don&apos;t understand what question there is needed to do this ticket. We should fix the documentation so that is correct based on the servers current behavior, and then can change the docs if the server behavior changes. In my understanding, the linked HELP ticket is about improving the server default and possible recommendations; not about the defaults today, which are documented both in the above slack thread I copied and that ticket. If we need more information to document things correctly today, feel free to let me know or open another ticket. &lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="5610307" author="JIRAUSER1272564" created="Thu, 3 Aug 2023 14:17:23 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://mongodb.slack.com/archives/C0V2Z88D8/p1691070365128179&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;Slack Thread&lt;/a&gt; captured from #server by &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=george.wangensteen%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=cailin.nelson%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;cailin.nelson@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;cailin.nelson@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;: Quick question... what is the default value for `maxIncomingConnections` for MongoDB 7.0? It was 65,536 for MongoDB 6.0 - so unless a change has been made, it is probably still that - but wanted to double check.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=george.wangensteen%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;: The 65536 was never actually correct, to my undersanding. See &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-5196&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-5196&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; . The server on 7.0 (same as 6.0) ships with a hard-max constant (see: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://github.com/mongodb/mongo/blame/37d84072b5c5b9fd723db5fa133fb202ad2317f1/src/mongo/db/server_options.h#L45&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://github.com/mongodb/mongo/blame/37d84072b5c5b9fd723db5fa133fb202ad2317f1/src/mongo/db/server_options.h#L45&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; ) of 1,000,000.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;However, on linux, the server reads the `rlimit`s (see &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://github.com/10gen/mongo/blob/37d84072b5c5b9fd723db5fa133fb202ad2317f1/src/mongo/transport/service_entry_point_impl.cpp#L145-L155&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://github.com/10gen/mongo/blob/37d84072b5c5b9fd723db5fa133fb202ad2317f1/src/mongo/transport/service_entry_point_impl.cpp#L145-L155&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;), and will lower the limit to `.8 * rlim_cur` if possible. At least on some of our EA service files, we shipped with LimitNOFILE=64000, whcih would effectively limit max incoming connections to 54000. But I&apos;m not sure what `rlimit` s are configured on Atlas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=george.wangensteen%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;: I&apos;m sad to see the docs weren&apos;t fixed. I&apos;m going to bump/reopen the tickets again.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=cailin.nelson%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;cailin.nelson@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;cailin.nelson@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;: Okay.  &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=jonathan.balsano%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;jonathan.balsano@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;jonathan.balsano@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt; - could you delegate somebody to parse this and understand whether or not we need a change to our value here: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://github.com/10gen/mms/blob/master/server/src/main/com/xgen/cloud/monitoring/topology/_public/model/Host.java#L500&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://github.com/10gen/mms/blob/master/server/src/main/com/xgen/cloud/monitoring/topology/_public/model/Host.java#L500&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; ?&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=george.wangensteen%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;: (See also &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/HELP-32687&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/HELP-32687&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; for why the .8 multiplication factor doesn&apos;t make sense anymore; not sure if it&apos;s relevant here but wanted to cal lit out)&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=memento%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;memento@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;memento@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/HELP-32687  to comment-on&quot; title=&quot;HELP-32687  to comment-on&amp;gt; is collected for &amp;lt;mailto:george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=memento%40mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;memento@mongodb.com&quot;&gt;memento@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/HELP-32687  to comment-on&quot; title=&quot;HELP-32687  to comment-on&amp;gt; is collected for &amp;lt;mailto:george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;george.wangensteen@mongodb.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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                            <comment id="5471146" author="JIRAUSER1270801" created="Fri, 2 Jun 2023 16:57:24 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;The HELP ticket associated with this has been closed twice. We do not have the information to update the documentation. Feel free to re-open this ticket if these questions are answered.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="4444019" author="eric.sommer" created="Wed, 30 Mar 2022 08:59:17 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=ashley.brown&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;ashley.brown&quot;&gt;ashley.brown&lt;/a&gt; I just found &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-5196&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-5196&lt;/a&gt; &amp;#8211; so this looks like a duplicate.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
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