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            <title>[DOCS-2645] Comment on: &quot;manual/core/read-operations.txt&quot;</title>
                <link>https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-2645</link>
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                    <description>&lt;p&gt;Once again, this is a followup on a IRC discussion and attempt at helping a begginner.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am having a very hard time pointing somebody to the right place for reading about use of the dot notation in a query selector context. IIRC it was covered in the old &quot;getting started&quot; page which i am unable to find now.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On a more general note, I think &quot;hiding&quot; the regular find() operator in CRUD/read is counter productive, even if it is somehow logical. I would personally make use of the regular find() a top level &quot;regular read&quot; subject, and make the rest of CRUD a top level &quot;write ops&quot; topic at the same level.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My memory of learning SQL &#8212; back last millenary &#8212; was about focusing on building increasingly complex select operations before starting with update and insert.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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            <summary>Comment on: &quot;manual/core/read-operations.txt&quot;</summary>
                <type id="4" iconUrl="https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/viewavatar?size=xsmall&amp;avatarId=14710&amp;avatarType=issuetype">Improvement</type>
                                            <priority id="3" iconUrl="https://jira.mongodb.org/images/icons/priorities/major.svg">Major - P3</priority>
                        <status id="6" iconUrl="https://jira.mongodb.org/images/icons/statuses/closed.png" description="The issue is considered finished, the resolution is correct. Issues which are closed can be reopened.">Closed</status>
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                                    <resolution id="9">Done</resolution>
                                        <assignee username="sam.kleinman">Sam Kleinman</assignee>
                                    <reporter username="kali">Mathieu Poumeyrol</reporter>
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                <created>Mon, 3 Feb 2014 11:00:18 +0000</created>
                <updated>Fri, 11 Apr 2014 13:16:14 +0000</updated>
                            <resolved>Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:33:24 +0000</resolved>
                                                    <fixVersion>v1.3.3</fixVersion>
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                            <comment id="522261" author="samk" created="Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:33:19 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;I&apos;m going to go ahead and close this issue for the moment: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul class=&quot;alternate&quot; type=&quot;square&quot;&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;I&apos;ve added some cross references that should help address the fact that it&apos;s hard to find the pages about queries and find().&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;ul class=&quot;alternate&quot; type=&quot;square&quot;&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;we have an ongoing project to rewrite the getting started section, a &quot;primer&quot;, to address the new user learning curve in a more directed sort of way.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;ul class=&quot;alternate&quot; type=&quot;square&quot;&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;I&apos;ve also filed &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-2989&quot; title=&quot;Add Developer Content to Manual Introduction&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;DOCS-2989&quot;&gt;&lt;del&gt;DOCS-2989&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, which I think further hides this kind of content from the very starting points in the manual.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;Cheers,&lt;br/&gt;
sam&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="522241" author="xgen-internal-githook" created="Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:20:15 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Author:&lt;/p&gt;
{u&apos;username&apos;: u&apos;tychoish&apos;, u&apos;name&apos;: u&apos;Sam Kleinman&apos;, u&apos;email&apos;: u&apos;samk@10gen.com&apos;}
&lt;p&gt;Message: &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/DOCS-2645&quot; title=&quot;Comment on: &amp;quot;manual/core/read-operations.txt&amp;quot;&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;DOCS-2645&quot;&gt;&lt;del&gt;DOCS-2645&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/a&gt;: adding additional cross references&lt;br/&gt;
Branch: master&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://github.com/mongodb/docs/commit/5e79db90c17536aca2343547057456d19b2fe23f&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://github.com/mongodb/docs/commit/5e79db90c17536aca2343547057456d19b2fe23f&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
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