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            <title>[SERVER-3126] replset - common point problem</title>
                <link>https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-3126</link>
                <project id="10000" key="SERVER">Core Server</project>
                    <description>&lt;p&gt;after changing oplog size in in config and restarting mongodb (in order: node no 1 - secondary, node no 2 - secondary, node no 3 - primary)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Set name:	testreplset&lt;br/&gt;
Majority up:	yes&lt;br/&gt;
Member	id	Up	cctime	Last heartbeat	Votes	Priority	State	Messages	optime	skew&lt;br/&gt;
172.17.0.251:27017	0	1	3.3 mins	1 sec ago	1	1	RECOVERING	error RS102 too stale to catch up	4dd6539b:81	&lt;br/&gt;
172.17.0.252:27017	1	1	3.3 mins	1 sec ago	1	1	PRIMARY		4dd6546d:7c	&lt;br/&gt;
172.17.0.253:27017 (me)	2	1	3.4 mins		1	1	ROLLBACK	rollback 2 error findcommonpoint waiting a while before trying again	4dd65853:8	&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Recent replset log activity:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Fri May 20 14:15:09 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;startReplSets&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; couldn&apos;t connect to localhost:27017: couldn&apos;t connect to server localhost:27017&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:09 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;startReplSets&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet STARTUP2&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:09 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet SECONDARY&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:09 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;rs Manager&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet can&apos;t see a majority, will not try to elect self&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:09 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;ReplSetHealthPollTask&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet info 172.17.0.252:27017 is up&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:09 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;ReplSetHealthPollTask&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet member 172.17.0.252:27017 PRIMARY&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:11 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;ReplSetHealthPollTask&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet info 172.17.0.251:27017 is up&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:11 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;ReplSetHealthPollTask&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet member 172.17.0.251:27017 RECOVERING&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet we are ahead of the primary, will try to roll back&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 0&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet ROLLBACK&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 1&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 2 FindCommonPoint&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet info rollback our last optime:   May 20 14:02:27:8&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet info rollback their last optime: May 20 13:45:49:7c&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet info rollback diff in end of log times: 998 seconds&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback error RS101 reached beginning of local oplog&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet   them:      172.17.0.252:27017 scanned: 58620&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet   theirTime: May 20 13:45:49 4dd6546d:7c&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet   ourTime:   May 20 13:57:33 4dd6572d:1dd&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 2 error RS101 reached beginning of local oplog &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;2&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:25 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet we are ahead of the primary, will try to roll back&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:25 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 0&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:25 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 1&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:25 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 2 FindCommonPoint&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:25 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 2 error findcommonpoint waiting a while before trying again&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:39 .....&lt;br/&gt;
           14:15:52 .....&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:05 .....&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:18 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet we are ahead of the primary, will try to roll back&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:18 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 0&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:18 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 1&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:18 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 2 FindCommonPoint&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:18 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet info rollback our last optime:   May 20 14:02:27:8&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:18 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet info rollback their last optime: May 20 13:45:49:7c&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:18 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet info rollback diff in end of log times: 998 seconds&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:18 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback error RS101 reached beginning of local oplog&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:18 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet   them:      172.17.0.252:27017 scanned: 58620&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:18 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet   theirTime: May 20 13:45:49 4dd6546d:7c&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:18 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet   ourTime:   May 20 13:57:33 4dd6572d:1dd&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:18 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 2 error RS101 reached beginning of local oplog &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;2&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:32 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet we are ahead of the primary, will try to roll back&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:32 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 0&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:32 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 1&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:32 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 2 FindCommonPoint&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:32 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 2 error findcommonpoint waiting a while before trying again&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:45 .....&lt;br/&gt;
           14:16:58 .....&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:11 .....&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:24 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet we are ahead of the primary, will try to roll back&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:24 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 0&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:24 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 1&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:24 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 2 FindCommonPoint&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:24 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet info rollback our last optime:   May 20 14:02:27:8&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:24 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet info rollback their last optime: May 20 13:45:49:7c&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:24 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet info rollback diff in end of log times: 998 seconds&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:25 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback error RS101 reached beginning of local oplog&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:25 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet   them:      172.17.0.252:27017 scanned: 58620&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:25 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet   theirTime: May 20 13:45:49 4dd6546d:7c&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:25 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet   ourTime:   May 20 13:57:33 4dd6572d:1dd&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:25 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 2 error RS101 reached beginning of local oplog &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;2&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:38 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet we are ahead of the primary, will try to roll back&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:38 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 0&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:38 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 1&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:38 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 2 FindCommonPoint&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:38 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback 2 error findcommonpoint waiting a while before trying again&lt;br/&gt;
           14:17:51 .....&lt;br/&gt;
           14:18:04 .....&lt;/p&gt;</description>
                <environment>as in &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-3125&quot; title=&quot;replset synchronisation performance problem (storing files)&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;SERVER-3125&quot;&gt;&lt;strike&gt;SERVER-3125&lt;/strike&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</environment>
        <key id="17308">SERVER-3126</key>
            <summary>replset - common point problem</summary>
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                                            <priority id="2" iconUrl="https://jira.mongodb.org/images/icons/priorities/critical.svg">Critical - P2</priority>
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                                    <resolution id="9">Done</resolution>
                                        <assignee username="greg.mckeon@mongodb.com">Gregory McKeon</assignee>
                                    <reporter username="msz">MartinS</reporter>
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                <created>Fri, 20 May 2011 12:23:21 +0000</created>
                <updated>Thu, 2 Aug 2018 21:26:04 +0000</updated>
                            <resolved>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:46:02 +0000</resolved>
                                    <version>1.8.1</version>
                                                    <component>Replication</component>
                                        <votes>0</votes>
                                    <watches>0</watches>
                                                                                                                <comments>
                            <comment id="63357" author="kristina" created="Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:46:02 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;You can prevent rollback with w:&quot;majority&quot; in v2.0.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="34507" author="msz" created="Thu, 26 May 2011 07:11:19 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;I don&apos;t wont to recover my current data cause it&apos;s only test before drive mongo into production.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I want to not have to use rollback, I&apos;d like mongo to stop working if 1/2 of nodes are stale (like when hosts are down).&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="34235" author="kristina" created="Tue, 24 May 2011 21:21:07 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;I&apos;ll take a look at the logs.  If you always use a write concern of w:&amp;lt;majority of servers&amp;gt;, you should never have rollbacks.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="34088" author="msz" created="Tue, 24 May 2011 07:23:40 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;logs are in &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-3125&quot; title=&quot;replset synchronisation performance problem (storing files)&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;SERVER-3125&quot;&gt;&lt;del&gt;SERVER-3125&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One important information: I won&apos;t to get data back with rollback. That was only test data.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And about primary host election with secondaries in incoplete state:&lt;br/&gt;
This should be configurable. I won&apos;t use MongoDB to get rollback from time to time. I would like to may configure my replicaset stops when 1/2 of RS nodes is not up to date with rest.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And one configuration directive could be very useful: forcing to keep oplog if changes were not commited on all nodes.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="33663" author="kristina" created="Fri, 20 May 2011 14:43:15 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;You cannot, at the moment, change oplog size by just changing the config option.  You have to drop the oplog and recreate it with a new size.  The oplog size matters a great deal!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Primary question is: why node that cannot sync became a new primary afrter restart primary host. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you have logs from all three during the time in question, I can probably interpret them for you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; And then: Why host with only actual db try to rollback after restart. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Basically, if you have a set with a primary &amp;amp; two secondaries and the primary is ahead, when it goes down, one of the secondaries will be elected primary &lt;b&gt;even if it doesn&apos;t have all of the data the primary had&lt;/b&gt;.  Then this new primary will start taking writes, so when the old primary comes back up, it will have data that it never applied to the secondaries, but it can&apos;t apply it automatically because it might conflict with writes that have happened while it was down.  So it rolls back its conflicting data.  See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snailinaturtleneck.com/blog/2011/01/19/how-to-use-replica-set-rollbacks/&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;http://www.snailinaturtleneck.com/blog/2011/01/19/how-to-use-replica-set-rollbacks/&lt;/a&gt; for an example.  &lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="33654" author="msz" created="Fri, 20 May 2011 13:05:02 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;This is no matter how big this logs are. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;or: size no matters :]&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Primary question is: why node that cannot sync became a new primary afrter restart primary host.&lt;br/&gt;
And then: Why host with only actual db try to rollback after restart.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="33652" author="kristina" created="Fri, 20 May 2011 12:59:58 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Hmm, how big are your oplogs?  Can you send the output of db.printReplicationInfo() from the primary and recoving nodes?&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="33650" author="msz" created="Fri, 20 May 2011 12:56:32 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;this time was max 15 minutes, how to force not to delete oplog until all nodes are in the same state?&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="33649" author="kristina" created="Fri, 20 May 2011 12:53:29 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;This:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;           14:15:12 &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;replica set sync&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; replSet rollback error RS101 reached beginning of local oplog &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;means you&apos;re going to have to resync this server.  The servers have been diverged for too long a time to reconcile automatically.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
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