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            <title>[SERVER-3600] &quot;too stale to catch up&quot; leaves state in RECOVERING</title>
                <link>https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-3600</link>
                <project id="10000" key="SERVER">Core Server</project>
                    <description>&lt;p&gt;If &quot;too stale to catch up&quot; means it will never catch up then I think this deserves a different state besides RECOVERING, which implies it will catch up eventually. Maybe the new state should be STALE indicating to the user that he will need to resync it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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            <summary>&quot;too stale to catch up&quot; leaves state in RECOVERING</summary>
                <type id="4" iconUrl="https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/viewavatar?size=xsmall&amp;avatarId=14710&amp;avatarType=issuetype">Improvement</type>
                                            <priority id="4" iconUrl="https://jira.mongodb.org/images/icons/priorities/minor.svg">Minor - P4</priority>
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                                    <resolution id="12300">Won&apos;t Do</resolution>
                                        <assignee username="backlog-server-repl">Backlog - Replication Team</assignee>
                                    <reporter username="tonyh">Tony Hannan</reporter>
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                <created>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:36:23 +0000</created>
                <updated>Tue, 6 Dec 2022 05:41:28 +0000</updated>
                            <resolved>Mon, 7 Oct 2019 20:59:07 +0000</resolved>
                                    <version>1.9.2</version>
                                                    <component>Replication</component>
                    <component>Usability</component>
                                        <votes>7</votes>
                                    <watches>13</watches>
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                            <comment id="2469991" author="steven.vannelli" created="Mon, 7 Oct 2019 20:59:07 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Closing this ticket as Won&apos;t Do as the parent Epic is no longer needed at this time.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="1336604" author="jamesj" created="Tue, 26 Jul 2016 19:46:23 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;perhaps TOO_STALE just like the log indicates&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="176931" author="david.hows" created="Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:08:21 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;The errmsg in these cases also implies that mongod could recover eventually.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The message is &lt;p/&gt;
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                            <comment id="48644" author="tonyh" created="Mon, 15 Aug 2011 18:00:20 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Or distinguish between RECOVERING and STALE as follows: RECOVERING means it is currently applying updates to catch up. STALE means it is behind and is just sitting there doing nothing. For example, if a node is behind and can&apos;t reach a node that has a long enough oplog then it marks itself as STALE. But as soon as it sees that node and starts applying its oplog it marks itself as RECOVERING.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="48642" author="tonyh" created="Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:52:23 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Ok, thanks for clarification. We could have it go to STALE state if it can see all other members&apos; oplogs and know that it is too far behind all of them. Up to you and Eliot if it is worth it.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="48633" author="kristina" created="Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:40:35 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;The issue is that it might be able to sync from someone else, e.g., if you had 3 servers with the following oplogs:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A: 3pm - 6pm&lt;br/&gt;
B: 4pm - 8pm&lt;br/&gt;
C: 7pm - 10pm&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If A can only reach C, it is stale, but if it reaches B it can start syncing from it.  &lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="48630" author="tonyh" created="Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:37:22 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Similar to this ticket but assign different state&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
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