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            <title>[SERVER-40881] Jumbo chunk not marked as jumbo</title>
                <link>https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-40881</link>
                <project id="10000" key="SERVER">Core Server</project>
                    <description>&lt;p&gt;I&apos;m new to MongoDB and took some courses at the MongoDB University.&lt;br/&gt;
When it came to Jumbo chunks I played around with it, but it behaves strange to me.&lt;br/&gt;
I intentionally created a jumbo chunk and it is treated as it should be treated&lt;br/&gt;
(not split even if it could by inserting another shard key value, not splittable manually except after adding another shard key value).&lt;br/&gt;
But it is not marked as jumbo, neither in the respecitve table, nor in the&#160;&lt;tt&gt;sh.status()&lt;/tt&gt; output.&lt;br/&gt;
&#160;&lt;br/&gt;
At &lt;a href=&quot;https://discourse.university.mongodb.com/t/divisible-jumbo-chunks&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://discourse.university.mongodb.com/t/divisible-jumbo-chunks&lt;/a&gt; I already wrote detailed information and log file excerpts.&lt;br/&gt;
Can you tell me why this chunk is not marked as jumbo?&lt;br/&gt;
Is this a bug?&lt;br/&gt;
&#160;&lt;br/&gt;
PS: version is 3.4.2 because that is the version in the vagrant box of the university course&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <key id="747249">SERVER-40881</key>
            <summary>Jumbo chunk not marked as jumbo</summary>
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                                    <resolution id="9">Done</resolution>
                                        <assignee username="eric.sedor@mongodb.com">Eric Sedor</assignee>
                                    <reporter username="vampire">Bj&#246;rn Kautler</reporter>
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                <created>Mon, 29 Apr 2019 12:35:41 +0000</created>
                <updated>Thu, 22 Aug 2019 05:56:12 +0000</updated>
                            <resolved>Thu, 11 Jul 2019 23:07:39 +0000</resolved>
                                    <version>3.4.2</version>
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                            <comment id="2322128" author="eric.sedor" created="Thu, 11 Jul 2019 23:07:31 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We haven&#8217;t heard back from you for some time, so I&#8217;m going to mark this ticket as resolved. If this is still an issue for you, please provide additional information and we will reopen the ticket.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thank you!&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="2294998" author="eric.sedor" created="Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:16:39 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wanted to see if you got my last message and had a chance to check the chunks collection in the config database for the chunks the logs reported as becoming jumbo.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks,&lt;br/&gt;
Eric&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="2266154" author="eric.sedor" created="Thu, 30 May 2019 22:53:12 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Hi &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=vampire&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;vampire&quot;&gt;vampire&lt;/a&gt;; one way of looking at what &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=kevin.pulo&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;kevin.pulo&quot;&gt;kevin.pulo&lt;/a&gt; is saying is that it is the Balancer which decides when a chunk is jumbo. And it looks like from the logs that it does so.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;shard01 reports:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p/&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;and the balancer reports:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p/&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;If this chunk is not seen as jumbo when you inspect the chunk document in the config server, then we would consider this problem as a duplicate of &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-26531&quot; title=&quot;jumbo flag in chunk can be cleared when the shard that owns it donates a chunk&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;SERVER-26531&quot;&gt;&lt;del&gt;SERVER-26531&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Can you confirm this?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Gratefully,&lt;br/&gt;
Eric&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="2260205" author="vampire" created="Sat, 25 May 2019 19:04:43 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Sorry for the late answer, I somehow didn&apos;t see there was an answer and missed checking manually.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=eric.sedor&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;eric.sedor&quot;&gt;eric.sedor&lt;/a&gt; I attached the requested logfile unmodified.&lt;br/&gt;
 There were no replica sets anyway, so these are actually all log files.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;panel&quot; style=&quot;border-width: 1px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;panelContent&quot;&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=kevin.pulo&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;kevin.pulo&quot;&gt;kevin.pulo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
 Chunks are only marked as jumbo by the balancer in certain limited circumstances:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;The balancer attempts to migrate the chunk to a different shard.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;The migration fails due to the chunk having too many documents. This causes the balancer to attempt to split the chunk.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;The chunk split fails. (Prior to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-21931&quot; title=&quot;Only mark chunks as jumbo if split fails because the chunk is too large&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;SERVER-21931&quot;&gt;&lt;del&gt;SERVER-21931&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, if it fails for any reason. After &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-21931&quot; title=&quot;Only mark chunks as jumbo if split fails because the chunk is too large&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;SERVER-21931&quot;&gt;&lt;del&gt;SERVER-21931&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, if it fails due to no split points being identified.)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;


&lt;p&gt;This means that chunks will never be marked as jumbo during any of:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;manual chunk migrations&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;manual chunk splits&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;chunk splits arising from inserts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am aware that manual migrations or splits do not cause marking as jumbo.&lt;br/&gt;
But for your statements that &quot;balancer tries to split if too many documents&quot; and &quot;chunk splits arising from inserts will not mark as jumbo&quot;,&lt;br/&gt;
if these statements are true, then all training and documentation material I&apos;ve see so far is either wrong or misleading.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here some examples:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/core/sharding-data-partitioning/#jumbo-chunks&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/core/sharding-data-partitioning/#jumbo-chunks&lt;/a&gt; says &quot;In some cases, chunks can grow beyond the specified chunk size but cannot undergo a split. The most common scenario is when a chunk represents a single shard key value. Since the chunk cannot split, it continues to grow beyond the chunk size, becoming a jumbo chunk.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The video of M312 MongoDB University Course in Chapter 4 labeled &quot;Lecture: Sharding Issues&quot; also suggests that the chunk gets marked jumbo if shard size gets exceeded.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/core/sharding-data-partitioning/index.html&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/core/sharding-data-partitioning/index.html&lt;/a&gt; says &quot;Automatic splitting only occurs during inserts or updates.&quot; and &quot;Inserts and updates may trigger splits.&quot; and later on that the balancer just just moves the chunks around that were split during insert or update to regain an even distribution amongst the shards.&lt;br/&gt;
 &#160;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=kevin.pulo&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;kevin.pulo&quot;&gt;kevin.pulo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
Have you tried arranged things such that the balancer will attempt to migrate the chunk in question? And have you ensured that prior to this, the chunk contains a large number (more than 250,000, or possibly even more than this) of small documents with identical shard key value?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;No, not yet, as all material I&apos;ve seen so far suggested to me that it should work like I tried it. :-/&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="2230203" author="kevin.pulo@10gen.com" created="Wed, 1 May 2019 05:31:16 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;Chunks are only marked as jumbo by the balancer in certain limited circumstances:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;The balancer attempts to migrate the chunk to a different shard.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;The migration fails due to the chunk having too many documents.  This causes the balancer to attempt to split the chunk.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;The chunk split fails.  (Prior to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-21931&quot; title=&quot;Only mark chunks as jumbo if split fails because the chunk is too large&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;SERVER-21931&quot;&gt;&lt;del&gt;SERVER-21931&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, if it fails for any reason.  After &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-21931&quot; title=&quot;Only mark chunks as jumbo if split fails because the chunk is too large&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;SERVER-21931&quot;&gt;&lt;del&gt;SERVER-21931&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, if it fails due to no split points being identified.)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;


&lt;p&gt;This means that chunks will never be marked as jumbo during any of:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;manual chunk migrations&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;manual chunk splits&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;chunk splits arising from inserts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;Have you tried arranged things such that the balancer will attempt to migrate the chunk in question?  And have you ensured that prior to this, the chunk contains a large number (more than 250,000, or possibly even more than this) of small documents with identical shard key value?&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="2228231" author="eric.sedor" created="Mon, 29 Apr 2019 20:11:40 +0000"  >&lt;p&gt;One possibility is that you are encountering &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-26531&quot; title=&quot;jumbo flag in chunk can be cleared when the shard that owns it donates a chunk&quot; class=&quot;issue-link&quot; data-issue-key=&quot;SERVER-26531&quot;&gt;&lt;del&gt;SERVER-26531&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. To help us confirm this, can you please attach the complete logs (without filtering via grep) of the primary member of the config server replica set, and the primary member of each shard, to this ticket?&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
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